{"id":832,"date":"2015-08-27T21:41:59","date_gmt":"2015-08-27T21:41:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lawandsoftware.com\/blog\/?p=832"},"modified":"2015-08-27T23:25:52","modified_gmt":"2015-08-27T23:25:52","slug":"chrome-works-fine-on-my-low-cost-unlocked-firephone-so-does-gmail","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lawandsoftware.com\/blog\/chrome-works-fine-on-my-low-cost-unlocked-firephone-so-does-gmail\/","title":{"rendered":"Chrome works fine on my low cost unlocked firephone. So does Gmail"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have Chrome on my Amazon firephone. I use gmail all the time. And I didn&#8217;t try to install google play services. I know there are ways to do it &#8211; but I  don&#8217;t like the idea of installing rogue &#8220;copies&#8221; of key google services. Yawn, boring lawyer. <!--more--> I just sideloaded another android app store. I chose Mobogenie. There are others. Once it was on the firephone, I have never needed to sideload anything else.<\/p>\n<p>First I downloaded Chrome. It just works. I tried some google apps, but they are wired into the play store services. This reminds me of Microsoft and their tie-in between the OS and Office in the 1990s. Maybe the Department of Justice will do something about this. I doubt it. But once I had Chrome, Gmail just worked &#8211; with a nice interface. I downloaded firefox and opera and tried gmail on them, and the interface was tacky. I did find that Chrome kept logging me out of gmail every few hours. That got tedious. So I downloaded Dolphin, which runs gmail as nicely as Chrome, and I have no more problems. Dolphin is now gmail for me. Gmail in a good browser. <\/p>\n<p>[note: I could have done the same with their Silk browser. It also displays gmail nicely. Sorry Amazon I don&#8217;t want to use alternative tools just because you want to fight browser wars. I&#8217;m sure Silk is nice. But life is too short.]<\/p>\n<p>When an app is in the Amazon store, I download from there. Otherwise from the third party store. EDx for example isn&#8217;t on Amazon, but is available elsewhere. Also Clio. Paypal Here. etc. Google maps works fine in Chrome too. Without the GPS tie-in of the app.<\/p>\n<p>Can I live with Gmail in a browser &#8211; well &#8211; on my other android phone the gmail app has recently had real problems downloading recent messages into threads. Which is so frustrating that I had stopped using the app anyway. <\/p>\n<p>The problem with the firephone &#8211; and Amazon&#8217;s fire tablets &#8211; has always been that they forgot their customers. The only people who suffered from their infighting with Google are the users. Well, maybe the big A did feel a little pain when they ended up with a warehouse full of unsold phones. Google does not have clean hands either, making sure their apps are tied to lock-in services. But once I realized I didn&#8217;t need those pesky services or the play store, just a good third party marketplace, I could leave Amazon and Google to their braindead corporate infighting and get to use a powerful unlocked smartphone for the price of a few lattes. <\/p>\n<p>Unlocked means I can go with good value resellers rather than the big telecoms. I use usmobile and have a $10 a month cellphone bill. And when I went to the UK a couple of months ago, I just replaced the nano sim with a free PAYG sim from over there. What&#8217;s not to like. Sure if you were buying it over two years on a contract from your favorite cellphone co it is not a good deal. If they are going to lock you in, you&#8217;d rather be in jail with an iphone than a firephone. But as a device that sets you free, it&#8217;s a steal. Except that they&#8217;re now all sold out and unavailable.<\/p>\n<p>I forgive Amazon, because they bundled a year of prime. Google made a joke of do no evil. 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